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Blog: Spine 3.0.00 released
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There is a known issue where downgrading from Spine 3 back to 2.1.27 will crash the first time. Just run Spine again and 2.1.27 will work fine. This is unfortunate, but it's a bug in 2.1.27 so it's not possible to fix. After some amount of time no one will be downgrading from v3 anyway. 
It will be great to have features:
- move along path (for example, it's very hard to make moving object along circle)
- see previous/next curve at graph window (it's very hard to merge curves between frames, for smooth animation)
- some functionality to generate frames with custom functions (to generate particles effects for example)
Is there any particular order of priority for updating the runtimes?
One thing at a time! 
We have a plan for path movement. There's a next/previous key hotkey, does that help? I'm not sure how custom functions would work.
Runtime order is a balanced of what is easiest and what is most popular. The generic runtimes generally get done first, probably starting with C#.
How do I update to 3.0? i would have hoped the update would be automatic or there would be a link available on the website but nada. When I do try to run Spine it asks me if I would like to revert and suggests I use an update link of which I know not where look. Checked my email, checked my program folders. How the balls do I update?
HI,
Did u update the new changes for the corona and lua???
Thanks,
Kumar KS
I am using spine via unity.
Exported animation is mal-formed in 3.0
(I applied latest unity-runtime)
Could you check please?
Guys, again the only runtime that supports v3 exports is spine-libgdx. The changes will be ported to the other runtimes soon. First we are working on some nice improvements to AnimationState which will get ported along with the v3 changes.
Xenobunny, v3 requires a Spine launcher update. This means you need to manually download and install a new launcher. You can download the latest launcher from your Spine license page. You were emailed a link to your Spine license page when you purchased Spine. If you can't find it, please email us from the email address you used to purchase Spine: contact@esotericsoftware.com
Fantastic work Nate and friends!
Super-glad to see Skew Scale and Flipping sorted out. Can't wait for these changes to hit Spine-C# and Spine-Unity. Well done all!
Hey, this update brought me a huge issue... I used x and y flip a lot but now all my animations are broken. It would be insane if i have to fix all of them manually now by 'minus scale' them.
Is there a chance that you could write a script that will convert the flips into minus scale keys by updating Spine? Or is there any other solution how to fix that?
Tiny little thing: The update resetted my Spine layout and my shortcuts. Would be nice if the update would not overwrite such things (next time)
After update to 3.0 on every launch Spine connects to server and download 3.0 again. How to fix it? It works same for latest 2 ... this is annoying to wait for response from server and downloading same version!
Possible to disable this tween for menu dropdown style?
Are you sure it's downloading and not just loading? If it's redownloading every time you launch, there's definitely a bug.
If you want to reduce menu animations:
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Oops, i should had read this first. Its no working with Unity yet right?
How exactly do i downgrade it now? =D
Ok found it!
When other runtimes will be usable for 3.0?
@decoamorim go to Settings... and look for this:
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In settings you can choose which update you are using:
http://esotericsoftware.com/spine-settings#Version
Rahel, we considered creating scale keys, but if there was already a scale timeline this could cause problems. I suppose for bones that don't have a scale timeline we could create keys. However, the old flip would flip bones using the world axes and the new flip uses the bones' local axes, so I'm not sure it would help much. Sorry! The new flip (negative scale) works a whole lot better and makes more sense, it's worth the trouble in the long run. You could always drop back to 2.1.27 and move to v3 for your next project. BTW, keep your 2.1.27 projects safe (you can always find them in your backup folder), because if you save with v3 it will remove your flip timelines. That way if we add code to create keys, you can make use of it.
About resetting the preferences, that has to happen when certain things change sometimes, sorry. We try not to do it, but sometimes it's unavoidable. You can find your old hotkeys in your Spine backup folder (click the button in Settings).
puzzler, are you running in a VM? What OS?
The menu animation duration was reduced in v3 so it should be less annoying than in v2, but you can disable all interface animations as Pharan has shown.
I should also remind everyone that if you save a project with v3, you cannot open it with an older version anymore. However, you can always open an old project with a newer version of Spine.
Yes, it's downloading on every launch. I did uninstall/install - same. Also, if I check concrete version instead of latest - same, downloading selected version on every launch!
Windows 7x64
Possible to download previous launcher? While you did not fix 3.0
I like it!! "New Skewing scale"
hwadock, great! We are all looking forward to the next amazing thing you come up with!
puzzler, are you running in a VM? Can you please send or post your spine.log file? contact@esotericsoftware.com
Nate wrotehwadock, great! We are all looking forward to the next amazing thing you come up with!
puzzler, are you running in a VM? Can you please send or post your spine.log file? contact@esotericsoftware.com
I don't use VM (Virtual Machine). Sent logs.
Great! I'm going to update pixi.js runtime.
I just dump here all stuff that you didnt answer before:
News:
Rpgmaker MV is going to support spine soon.
Pixi.js runtime uses GPU to optimize FFD animations.
Questions:
1) What about support of polygon packing for meshes? I saw how @StageXL published in his twitter optimized atlas for Rider.
2) When will you publish it in Steam? Spriter is already there.
3) What about region-based discounts? I know a number of indie game developers in russia and ukraine who just cant spend that much money due to economical crysis.
very exciting! I just only heard about the 3.0 release. Congrats guys!
I just updated my libgdx runtime to newest version and have a problem — I use skeleton flipping (not bone flipping with animations) to change character's orientation when he walks left, and with new runtime using skeleton.setFlipX has no effect, is it because of changes to flipping? How should I workaround this? I don't want to scale root bone because it may possibly be animated in the future...
Would there be any way to add the ability for the saved selection sets to include vertex selections to both the previous version of spine and the latest for those of us who wont be updating till the runtimes are updated?
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I have uninstall the spine 2.1.27 and then I download Spine again and I install the new Spine 3.0.. but now i read about the only runtime that supports v3 exports is spine-libgdx but Im extreme working now with the Unity Runtime..
I try to switch to 2.1.27 again but I only have the option to back to 1.7.12..
How I can back to 2.1.27 please? 
:doh: :sweat:
I answer my self,
I open the button "Other" and I type 2.1.27 and then Spine automatically start to download that version
But I hope and wait the Runtime for Unity soon =) I really want to try v3.0
Thanks
Hackerham wrote1) What about support of polygon packing for meshes? I saw how @StageXL published in his twitter optimized atlas for Rider.
2) When will you publish it in Steam? Spriter is already there.
3) What about region-based discounts? I know a number of indie game developers in russia and ukraine who just cant spend that much money due to economical crysis.
1) Polygon packing would be great, but it's quite complex. Even rectangular bin packing is NP hard.
2) What benefits are there to putting Spine on Steam? What Spriter does is not interesting for us.
3) I understand the difference in economies between the US and eastern Europe (I live in Croatia). However, it's difficult to make discounts fair, especially for a lifetime license. Unfortunately we haven't been able to come up with a reasonable solution.
vlaaad, we've committed a fix for that problem, thanks.
justifun, we don't generally do back fixes. The effort this requires generally makes it not worthwhile, it would be better to spend our time moving forward (eg, updating the runtimes to work with v3).
hollyhogan, glad you got it sorted out.
Is it possible to fix mouse zoom-out? Now for zoom-in we scale to mouse position, but for zoom-out we scale to no where ... it will be cool to keep zoom at the center of mouse position on zoom-out too.
MMhmmm, am I cursed ?
http://screencast.com/t/m0rdg4jcvyq
where is the v3 ??
puzzler, mouse wheel zoom works as designed. Zoom in goes to the mouse position. Zoom out is based on the screen center. Eg,move the mouse to the left of center if you want to see more to the left when you zoom out. This allows you to both zoom out and pan at the same time. It takes just a moment to get used to, then you will be able to zoom out and zoom in again at a different location very naturally. If it zoomed out using the mouse cursor similar to how it zoomed in, you would have to zoom out, pan, then zoom in again.
raoulito, 3.0.00 (or any version) won't appear in your list until you have updated to that version. To use a specific version, select it in the list (or click Other and type it) and Spine won't auto update. Since you have selected 2.1.27, Spine does not auto update to the latest. If you choose Latest it would, except v3 is a big release that requires a launcher update, so instead of updating it will prompt you to download a new launcher.
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Hi Nate, congratulation to 3.0 release. We are super happy that you are going forward. :party:
I ve already wrote it in UNITY section but I will ask again. Please let us sell animations in unity asset store. It will only bring more fame to your app and your company. All what is needed is to put unity runtime on asset store ( paid or free ) and revise your license.
Really, I feel you can only gain by this move. Any thoughts on it?
Again... thank you again you are going forward. Keep the pace. We know how hard it is. :-)
One more request. Can you please add views for Images, Skins, Draw Order, Events and Constraints? Especially Images is needed since putting larger amount of file into spine is quite unhandy when one has to scroll down and up all the time.
Thank you, Marek.
foriero, I've responded to your thread about the Unity asset store.
Yes, more views would be helpful, as well as incremental search to quickly find items in the tree.
I'm having an issue on my win8 computer. I've downloaded the loader, and installed spine, but it will not run. No error message or crash that I see. I just get nothing (no loader, flicker or anything). If i watch the task manager, somtime i see spine pop up for a second or two, but other then that i don't see anything. Any suggestions for what I could try?
Hey Nate, can you give us an estimate for when the Spine 3 Unity Runtime will be released?
My company is working on a short-term project, and it is extremely important to us know if we should plan with Spine 3.0 or not.
The edit box which is used to manually define scale factor works quite strange.
Sometimes it doesn't allow to enter floating point values (0.98). It enforces the entered value to the nearest integer (0.98 -> 1.0). Sometimes it doesn't allow to change negative value (-1.0) to positive (1.0).
Seems it's a bug.
@Tim.hoeregott
It won't take long. I highly doubt the Unity/C# port won't be done before February.
You can check the progress here: Unity Runtime v3.0 Update Pending
kxs wroteThe edit box which is used to manually define scale factor works quite strange.
Sometimes it doesn't allow to enter floating point values (0.98). It enforces the entered value to the nearest integer (0.98 -> 1.0). Sometimes it doesn't allow to change negative value (-1.0) to positive (1.0).
Seems it's a bug.
I can't replicate this bug. What else can you tell us about the setup where this is happening?
Pharan wroteI can't replicate this bug. What else can you tell us about the setup where this is happening?
@Pharan I've captured a video.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29632940/spine/G9jQ6q2cfK98d0kM57Fw0Ht1M4geb2li/spine-scale.zip
Moreover if I switch focus between edit boxes their values become swapped.
Spine version: 3.0.00 Professional
Windows 8.1 Pro
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_65-b17)
I think there's a bug but it's not as you described.
The video sums it up well though. Thanks for sending that!
I was able to confirm it on my end too.
loogie wroteI'm having an issue on my win8 computer. I've downloaded the loader, and installed spine, but it will not run. No error message or crash that I see. I just get nothing (no loader, flicker or anything). If i watch the task manager, somtime i see spine pop up for a second or two, but other then that i don't see anything. Any suggestions for what I could try?
Are you running Bit Defender or another anti virus? A few people are having problems with their anti virus deleting Spine files:
Spine 3.0.00 doesn't run
Thanks for the bug video, we're working on a fix.